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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:17:00 -
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Xearal wrote:OR.. you could you know.. adapt..
Wh residents have been putting up with the sleeper AI for ages.. I've been daytripping in w-space myself once in a while, and I've found no trouble at all with my drones vs the sleeper Ai.. it just requires a little more thinking, instead of just.. warp in, get agro, release drones.. get snack, come back, go get coffee you forgot, come back again, have a nice sip, go to next room, repeat combat actions, get noctis alt, begin salvaging..
now it actually requires you to think a bit. As for serpentis lockdown.. I've found an afterburner and some close range firepower works wonders when you get sensor damped.
Tanking the assault at close range didn't end well on the test server for me. Decoy drone plan it is. As for thinking, Wait for red to appear, recall, relaunch actually counts as thinking now? Standards have really fallen. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 04:09:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:You have a few options:
- get a friend to do L4's with, do 2x the missions in the same time as one
- move to null and actually make ISK
- GTFO
I understand having all the best content require groups in an MMO, but eliminating solo content doesn't seem to bright to me. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 07:57:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Tarn Kugisa wrote:You have a few options:
- get a friend to do L4's with, do 2x the missions in the same time as one
- move to null and actually make ISK
- GTFO
I understand having all the best content require groups in an MMO, but eliminating solo content doesn't seem to bright to me. There has been no elimination of solo content. You still have level 1s, 2s, and 3s. Assuming for a moment I actually believed lvl 4's were no longer doable solo, you think lvl 3's should be the best for mission content to be done solo? Really? |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 20:29:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Alua Oresson wrote:For the PVEing that I do, I find that the change to drones actually makes things easier for me. If you do the right kind of content you don't have to deal with frigates. And seeing as frigates seem to be the only thing to agress sentry drones, I don't even have to recover my drones between waves anymore. Win Win for me. i do Forsaken Hubs too, this change means MUCH more dps for me, I used to use mach/tengu now it's mach rattlesnake. Then i went and tried a Haven, it was a nightmare at warp in range. I refit the mach for artillery and warp my ships in at range and it was just blap blap blappity blap. The change isn't a game ender, just poorly thought out imo. You mean to say that this AI change is a direct blow to L4s (in hi-sec) and makes ratting in null easier? Gasp! We totally did not see this one coming, what with CSM being wall-to-wall nullbears and all.  Dinsdale Pirannha, is that you (jk)?
Looking forward to finally having time to try the RS for the first time after the change tonight. Does RR work well for grabbing aggro back? Or TP's? Also should I just take the heavy's out? And notable increase in mission completion times due to frequent recalls? |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.08 02:06:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:Edey wrote:Now that I can't do L4 missions with my drones, can I have a skills remap?
No, this is not a joke or a troll. I really want a remap, this is fair. In any other game when devs nerf something to hell they give you a respec so you have a choice. Having mostly drone skills cuts your ability to do anything right now. iam sorry you feel like that afk mining was also removed. Now afk mision running to. To bad your playing like a world of warcraft player. Make it to hard for you? then eve is not your game. Atleast eve is not brainless farming game. Time to go play a other game then. While I won't defend the request for remap, not every drone user was AFK. I enjoyed my RS in mission due to the effective range and good damage application which I made full use of by manually engaging my drones save when I was prevented from it by ewar. Things got harder for people like me as well, not just AFK'ers. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:19:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Did you train your new sensor compensation skills before you ran the assault? +1 for you for finding me new (possibly useful) skill. however people are right: it won't safe you from damp from 10 NPC ships If this is the assault against serpentis I'm not sure how those would help. Sensor strength doesn't counter damps unless I've been misinformed. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
400
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:...getting into a t3 is as long as getting into a battleship. While getting good performance out of each would take similar amounts of time, going strain from nothing to minimum BS and relevant mods seems it would take less time. Especially since the BS minimal plan doesn't require a single lvl 5 skill. The proteus requires several. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
401
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Posted - 2012.12.12 20:59:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Jame Jarl Retief wrote:BoBoZoBo wrote:HA - Sorry - I was actually replying to another thread.
What I will end up doing is once a drone is targeted, I keep it orbiting me and I RR it. They get a target they like and they usually keep hitting that one. I get to kill them This approach is flawed for a number of reasons. 1. What if the drone is far away? Please don't tell me drones are not intended to fly far away from the ship - this is directly countered by Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing skill (improves drone control range), Drone Link Augmentor module (again improves drone control range). And before you argue that this is perhaps intended for Sentry drones, there's also Drone Navigation module (improves travel speed, not combat speed). I propose this proves drones ARE intended to travel long distances to their targets. We should also be able to assume that the game is balanced. Thus, when Thermal damage is required, Gallente drones should be viable for use. Otherwise the game is unbalanced. This, coupled with the above paragraph, says that even incredibly slow Ogre heavy drones SHOULD be usable over long distances. However, you and I both know that if an Ogre comes under fire 60km away, it will be dead long, long before it can be repaired. Even relatively fast Minmatar Berserker likely won't make it. If it is webbed, it definitely won't make it. And sentries are not always viable or desirable - such as in a moving fight, or extremely-close orbiting ships (Angels Cartel battleships orbiting at 2.5km). 2. Loss of DPS from return to repair? Even assuming the drone can make it back within range, and assuming it doesn't get alphaed from 100% to dead in one shot, what about the DPS loss? Recalling a drone for repair is equivalent to turning off a turret on another ship. Add to that the DPS loss for travel time of the drone from from ship to original target, where it presumably takes damage, then time spent flying back, time spent undergoing repairs, and time spent once again traveling to target before resuming its damage dealing? All this HAS to be compensated. It isn't. Thus, the system is broken. Look, I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying it is currently grossly, ludicrously inefficient compared to every other race. This change effectively damaged a HUGE chunk of Gallente ship lineup in PvE. Including but not limited to Tristan, Algos, Vexor, Myrmidon and Dominix. And that's just the T1 hulls. No doubt it is inefficient. But it works tremendously well. At the cost of a 20% DPS reduction. This is the primary factor pushing me away from drone usage as a primary weapon post patch. It's not that solutions can't be found or executed, but that their cost appears to be disproportional. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
401
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Posted - 2012.12.12 22:59:00 -
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Mund Richard wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: This is the primary factor pushing me away from drone usage as a primary weapon post patch. Can't remember the last time I thought of drones as primary weapon system, apart from sentries.  Although it has been ages ago since I flew L2s comparing a Vexor to a Thorax, and at the time the Algos was not in game. I primarily use sentries but very close orbiting ships cruiser and up I tend to get better results with heavies. Only issue is that unbonused RR range doesn't even allow that half the time. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
401
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Posted - 2012.12.13 06:26:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Why are people so upset about the new AI changes? I still throw out my drones & leave them out & they never die. Are they getting any aggro? Using Ewar? RR? Solo? Just did a mission and had a hobb II die when recalled from 20km away. Shields were near alpha'd. Started getting aggro as soon as drones fired on the frigate. Drone durability 4. No bonus to drone HP on the hull. Would a TP be able to draw them off? |
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